Re: IQ and money, was Re: Stephen Gould proves that Africans are not black!

Student (@mail.wlv.ac.uk)
3 Jul 1995 16:40:33 GMT

In article <3t2d0e$abu@nkosi.well.com>, skg@well.sf.ca.us (Steven K. Gill)
wrote:

> Stephen Lajoie (lajoie@eskimo.com) wrote:
> : In article <3snf0i$6ed@chinacat.cwa.com>,
> : Lane Singer <lsd@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> : >
> : >From: lajoie@eskimo.com (Stephen Lajoie)
> : >
> : >> > rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy) writes:
> : >> >
> : >> >>But those in the top income level may have attained their level
> : >> >>because they had high IQ levels, in that case it is only natural
> : >> >>that their offspring have the higher IQ levels.
> : >> >>
> : >> >>They are rich because they are more intelligent.

They might be more intelligent because they are richer (better education,
nurturing, nourishment, toys &c)

> : >
> : >[Singer]
> : >> >I can think of countless people I've met who are rich and stupid.
> : >> >Not inherited wealth, either, though whether their stupidity
> : >> >was inherited, I couldn't say.
> : >
> : >> Wow. You must be an interesting person. Do you walk around with
> : >> an I.Q. test or "g" test in your pocket, and test everyone you meet?
> : >
> : >I don't believe I mentioned a word about "IQ" in my remark.
>
> : You're right, you didn't. But I note the previous poster made a
> : remark about the correlation of I.Q. score and income, to which
> : you made the remark about how you met "countless people ... who
> : are rich and stupid." Mr. Nice Guy can probably cite sources
> : of the correlation. If he can't, I can. There is absolutely no
> : way you can back up your claim of countless rich, stupid people,
> : as you hold to yourself the definition of intelligent.
>

Just because wealth and intelligence are positively correlated, there is
no reason to assume that there are not plenty of stupid rich people. The
two propositions are not mutually exclusive.

> : >> Does everyone agree to your test? Has the Singer test been correlated to
> : >> anything? Do you have objectivity?
> : >
> : >As much and as little objectivity as the next person. Are
> : >we required to apply to Lajoie for permission to express
> : >personal opinions?
>
> : Ah! I made no mention of the need to ask me for permission to
> : express your opinions. I simply pointed out that it is nothing
> : more than an opinion, and not a very objective one at that.
> : --
> : --
> : Steve La Joie
> : lajoie@eskimo.com
> :
> Then there's all of us that are poor, but highly intelligent - we're too
> busy having fun to get rich! :*).....