Re: Is the Swastika evidence of a common origin?
Gerry Palo (email@example.com)
Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:49:11 GMT
In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
Steve Pridgeon <email@example.com> wrote:
> Gerry Palo said:
>}In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
>}Steve Pridgeon <email@example.com> wrote:
>}> Dan Clore said:
>}>}In some traditions the one way is good and the other bad. The pattern
>}>}shows up all over the place: in Native American traditions, Hindu,
>}>}Buddhist (a sign of a Buddha is being born with the chest hair arranged
>}>}as a swastika)...
>}>How much chest hair is the average Bhuddist born with?
>}He did not say Buddhist but Buddha. This is an imaginative picture meant
>Yes. I assumed that any budding Buddha would be born among Buddhists. The
>fact that the layout, rather than the quantity, of chest hair at birth is
>considered diagnostic does tend to imply that the presence of natal chest
>hair is, in itself, unremarkable.
Well, in fact Prince Siddharta was born among Hindus in India. There were
no Buddhists then. Let the picture imply to you what it will. You will
have to learn about these things on another, I would say much longer, path.
>}to convey non-material truth through symbolic representation. His being
>Non-material truth? Truth that isn't?
As I said, if you are so bound to matter as the only form of reality,
you have a long way to go. There is not much I can say to you.
>}born with hair indicates his coming into the world with a certain degree
>}of high development, not an ordinary human being. The arrangement into the
>}swastika indicates possibly a specific kind of clairvoyant faculty,
>}connected with the so-called lotus blossoms. It could have other meanings
>}The Philistine needs to learn that there are different kinds of literal
>}truth than those that apply only to gross matter. Pictures of this kind
>}are meant to enlighten just such folks, all of us really, if they will
>}only open their eyes and minds to new possibilities.
>So is the chest hair really there, or do you just have to believe in it?
Are these the only possibilities you can think of? (From your remarks so
far, I am afraid they are.) Didn't you ever read about symbolism in one of
your school classes, perhaps in an art course? The artist's arrangement
of the hair would be considered a symbolic gesture to indicate a spiritual
truth in pictorial form. We are talking here about the meaning of the
hooked cross beyond its use by the Nazis. Why is this so difficult for
you to understand?
Gerry Palo Denver, Colorado