Re: Is the Swastika evidence of a common origin?

Pastor Bob (
Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:18:30 GMT

In article <5b0g3b$>, (Stephen Watson) says:

>In article <01bbfcfb$40aef7e0$1d3ae9cd@wintermute>,
>Gord Bowman <> wrote:

>>The Swastika (the original, not the flipped Nazi version) is an ancient
>>symbol of unknown origin that has been employed for thousands of years as a
>>religious sign and a decorative emblem. This symbol appears in such
>>cultures as ancient China, Egypt, India, old Norse, Ancient Crete, Mayan,
>>Aztec, American Indians, and the list goes on.
>FWIW, the late Carl Sagan, in his book _Comet_, suggests that the
>swastika originated with the apparition of a rotating, jetting comet
>which occurred some thousands of years ago. This would account for
>the symbol being so ancient, and widespread.
>IMHO, this was *not* one of Sagan's finer moments -- too much of a
>just-so story for my taste. (Still better than anything V********y
>came up with, though).

This may be true! Many non-monotheistic religions looked to the stars
for truth and the Swastika is a common pagan symbol and it reminds one
of a spiral galaxy. Even the flipped Nazi version is of pagan origin
as pagan themes were used as a common unifying myth by the Nazis and
many high ranking Nazis were known pagan practitioners who invoked the
majick arts to aid in battle. In fact, the Nazis eagerly scoured their
conquests for pagan artifacts and were noted for bringing much of what
they found to museums in Berlin. Notable among these were ancient
Babylonian artifacts.

Today, the Swastika can often be found embeded within the icreasingly
complex crop circles now appearing in ever greater numbers around the
world which should not be too surprising as the Swastika was found on
the Peruvian plain of Nazca.

>>Some of these cultures supposedly had no contact with each other, yet the
>>general consensus of the scientific community seems to be that "There is no
>>reason to suppose that all of these have been derived from a common
>>source...." (Gough & Parker--"A Glossary Of The Terms Used In Heraldry").
>>The Swastika could be just a clever Sun calendar illustration found all>
>>over the world (see The History of the Swastika at
>> ).

Sun, galaxy, spaceship, no one knows for sure (but I'm sure most of us
doubt the spaceship ;-) but it represents a common root to most world
religions extending back to Cain who wanted spiritual power on his own
terms rather than on God's which is basically what the Swastika represents
though it continues to be dressed in fig leaves to hide that fact. For
proof just look at what the Swastika did to God's chosen people, the Jews.

>>Now, I understand that finding just one such commonality between different
>>cultures is not proof that they had contact with each other, however I
>>don't understand why the idea of a common source is so far fetched. Isn't
>>it a common theory that the native peoples of North, Central and South
>>America at some point in the past crossed either a land or ice bridge
>>probably between Siberia and Alaska? If this is true, then why could the
>>symbol not have been in existence before such a crossing? Shouldn't this
>>common symbol at least be viewed as evidence that such widely separated
>>cultures (such as the Mayans and the Egyptians) MIGHT have a common origin?

They are of common origin but the glue is man's reach for the heavens as
Lucifer tried so long ago. The various pyramids around the world, though
technical marvels, are but Ziggurats for religious and astronomical purposes.
The technical part is enlightening as well, the Swastika is the model the
ancient Greeks used for their early "steam motor" which was a spherical
Swastika filled with water which turned as heat caused steam to escape
from the Swastika nozzles. This is kind of a metaphore for our day as
the Swastika represents the melding of the spiritual and technical in
man's effort to become as God.

>>Just wondering...

Pastor Bob