Re: BELL CURVE CRITIC EXPOSED?

Martin Hutchison (mhutchison@cc.weber.edu)
3 Feb 1995 08:56 MST

In article <dexter.791587839@aries>, dexter@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Frosch) writes...
mhutchison@cc.weber.edu (Martin Hutchison) writes:

> >Biologists agree, Zoologists agree, but granola crunchers are happy to say
> >"Hey, this one has a white paw(red tail, little spot patterns, whatever), let's
> >call it an endangered species and protect it".

> >There is clear consensus on how we classify species. You can ALWAYS find nuts &
> >flakes to dissagree with anything.

> who is 'we', who classifies species? from my knowledge of the
> field, there is not clear consensus, but a recognition of difficulty.
>****
>There should always be a recognition of difficulty in everything, thus we
>continuously improve. That does not mean that when scientists debate aspects of
>stone age society that they debate the concept of evolution.

"biologists agree, zoologists agree..." what do they agree?
more than one poster has made the point that there is not a clear
and unambiguous definition of species. if you claim that "most
(if not all) textbooks in the world" use the same definition, what
is the definition they use? i have some trouble believing that you
have read "most (if not all) textbooks in the world" on this issue,
the linguistic difficulties alone are rather overwhelming.
****
Do you have trouble believing that my zool professor would not lie about what
is the accepted standard?

>Most(if not all) textbooks in the world use the same system for specieal
>classification, so that is the "we". Accept it or not, it is there. And if you
>wish to refute it, you prove that it's wrong or shut up. The burden of proof is
>always on the challenger, not the other way around.

you have a strange concept as far as the burden of proof goes.
does that mean that if i claim god is a lesbian sadomasochist living
in san francisco and i know her address, i have no burden of proof,
but that you have to disprove it?
****
You aren't very bright, babes. You are challenging the accepted ideas about god
if you propose that it is really a "lesbian.....", so YOU prove your image of
god if you want to change convention.
MKH