Re: Amerind an offensive term (was: Early Amerind assimilation

Stephen Barnard (
Sun, 18 Aug 1996 07:33:40 -0800 wrote:
> Stephen Barnard <> wrote:
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> I have been quietly and intermittently watching this thread but
> now I think its time for me to have my say.
> I have seen at least one Native American who's name I can not
> remember, try to teach, yes teach white America a thing or two
> about Native Americans and how they view themselvs, White America
> just can't seem to get it! It is no longer up to white America to
> decide what is or is not offensive to anyone but white America!
> These postings are for sci. archaeology and sci. anthopology but
> it appears that no one is interested in learning or understanding
> anything but their own narrow and many times arrogant points of
> view.
> For starters - white America does not have American sports named
> according to skin color or the lack thereof, white America have
> not been hearded on to a piece of forign territory and told to
> live, white America has not had the culture of the old world
> ripped from memory and white America has not had any of her
> emmigrant ethnicities (tribes) become extinct.
> snip>
> >A few people have questioned my motives in starting this thread. Well, tough.
> Did you take any time at all to wonder WHY people questioned your
> motives? Judging from your post you could have cared less.

As a matter of fact, I *have* thought about it (not that I was surprised
to begin with).

> >I'm not anti-Native-American. I *do* happen to find the hypersensitivity of
> >some ethnic groups to nomenclature to be unfortunate. Can you believe that
> >some white-bread Midwesterners actually think that "Jew" is an offensive term,
> >and that you should say "Jewish person" instead?
> Your words shoe that you are anti Native American and very smug
> about how some of those, you know, minorities react to white
> Americas nomenclature. My question is what kind of an American are
> you? And as for the lack of hypersensitivity from the Indian
> newsgroup -news flash- people will have more tolorance when they
> are addressed or referred to in a fashion that THEY, not you, deem
> acceptable.

That's exactly what I've been trying to determine. Quite some time ago
I was satisfied that Native American will do. In this post I was only
answering some factual questions. You chose to pick on a side comment,
which is fine with me.

> Well the white-bread midwesterners may be on to something. Does
> the word Hebrew ring a bell? JU-daism is a religion. Remember, the
> one that came before Christianity and Islam, numero uno in the
> chronology of the big three!

What's you point?

> On the whole, I found the
> >attitude of the Asian Indian respondents to be refreshingly tolerant.
> Well mercy be!!
> I do not beleive that the Native American (except may be Ben
> Nighthorse Campbell) really cares about how tolorant white America
> think they are. In comming to the decision to call themselves
> Native Americans I do not think the comfort level of white America
> was of any concern, nor will it be if and when they decide to
> change it! It seems to me that quite a few of the people on this
> thread are intolorant, arrogant and some are just plain stupid to
> think that the sun rises and sets only on them.

I'm not speaking for "white America". I'm speaking only for myself.

> Native Americans are going through a rebirth much like the African
> Americans. They are making some strides and I feel are on the
> right tract. In spite of people like some of those on this thread
> they will be just fine.
> I suppose it is obvious that I am angry at the lack of tolorance
> and understanding from some of the participants on this thread but
> my intent is not to flame anyone. Giving respect and accepting a
> name that white America did not create is a very simple and easy
> thing to do. Just resist the need to anil-lyze. Improvise and go
> with the flow. It feels good.

Native Americans have plenty to be angry about, but tolerance and
understanding are virtues for *all* people.

> -Paloma
> "Don't worry about the changes in the key
> just play within the range of the idea"
> Charlie Parker

Steve Barnard