Re: whale brains

Ralph L Holloway (
Wed, 15 Nov 1995 23:20:33 -0500

On 13 Nov 1995, H. M. Hubey wrote:

> That one particular correlation b/B (brain_mass/Body_mass)
> is the best one so far that seems to give us a hint that
> we are on the right track.
What correlation are you talking about? The correlation of brain weight
with body weight? The correlation of E.Q.'s with behavior? The
correlation of relative brain weight with "intelligence"? What are you
actually talking about?

> Why is it OK to gaze at bones and not ok to measure sizes
> of brains?

Hubey, are you really talking to me about measuring brains? Goddamn, I've
been measuring brains for the last 35 years. If I'm not mistaken, I'm
even cited in Eccles' book... what are you reading?

> So then your bone-gazing is science and Eccles' brain
> size measurement is not. Is that how it works in your
> field of science?
Ah, come on, cut the crap!>

> If there's something which can be put in it, I'd be happy to
> include references to Dr. Holloway.

Gee, if you are going to continue with this display of your ignorance I'd
be grateful if you didn't include my references.
Again, what is it that Eccles claims in his book that shows exactly how
the chimpanzee brain differs from the human brain? The only major
difference I know of is that the primary visual cortex, area 17 of
Brodmann is relatively less in human brains than in chimpanzee brains,
meaning that posterior parietal association cortex is relatively larger
in human brains (both after allometric correction). If you have some
other information based on actual data I'd appreciate your posting it ASP.
Ralph Holloway