Re: Here Troy, come and g

J. Moore (
Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:01:00 -0500

JM> -But in his apology he felt it necessary to add yet more
JM> -incorrect information about a subject he quite obviously knows little
JM> -if anything about, so I corrected him as quoted above, and got his
JM> -somewhat peevish reply.

Si> So the lesson here kids, never give an apology, because it won't get you
Si> anywhere!!!

No, the apology was fine, and like all on-line apologies, would've
raised your image in the eyes of all the readers of this newsgroup, if
you had only managed to refrain from adding yet more inaccurate
information on a subject you do not know.

Si> No, I think it is very important to generalize in this case. I said
Si> "crocodiles", note the "s" on the end of the word, which means "all
Si> crocodiles" or "crocodiles in general". That is what I meant, and that
Si> is what I said. You can not pick and choose what I wanted you to
Si> prove... "Troy wants me to prove that crocodiles swim "far away from -
Si> the shorelines or coastal areas". Fair enough." - that is not all that
Si> I said, but if you want to be selective in your research gathering, go
Si> ahead, but that is not very good science.

Troy, these putative aquatic hominids are not less at risk because not
every single crocodile in the world is in their habitat. Even a single
species (which would be millions of individual crocodiles) would be enough
to create a massive problem for them, a problem that needs to be
addressed in the theory (but isn't). You appear to say that because
some crocodiles, for instance, the American Crocodile, were not anywhere
near this African habitat, that *no* crocodile was a problem. Troy,
I'm sorry, but there's no polite way to say it, but that's stupid.

Si> - Habitat: Known to occupy a wide variety of freshwater habitats, this

Si> Gee, even this species is mostly freshwater.

Yes, the Nile Crocodile is primarily freshwater, but has no problem
living, swimming, travelling, and eating in salt-water habitats. Your

Si> -From time to time crocodiles are washed out from East African
Si> -river mouths to the sea;

Si> So they are "washed out" to sea, "from time to time"? I would hardly
Si> characterize that as a primary habitat. Would you? All sorts of fresh
Si> water organisms are washed out to sea. Especially after a heavy rain,
Si> but that does not mean they live in the sea.

Yes, the Nile Crocodile...wait, I already said that. But then you don't
comprehend well, judging from your reaction to my post, so I'll repeat
it: Yes, the Nile Crocodile is primarily freshwater, but has no problem
living, swimming, travelling, and eating in salt-water habitats.

Si> -pg. 68:
Si> -Indopacific Crocodile (*Crocodylus porosus*)
Si> -Habitat: Commonly encountered in marine habitats, the common names
Si> -Estuarine or Saltwater Crocodile are, however, misleading since this
Si> -species is often found in freshwater habitats such as large rivers and
Si> -lakes.

Si> So the Saltwater Crocodile name is a misnomer, because it "is often
Si> found in freshwater habitats such as large rivers and lakes". Very
Si> interesting.
Si> Thanks for doing my research for me Jim.

It is a shame you didn't do it before you claimed "in fact, I know that
they don't live in salt water."

Si> -Its distribution is still not fully known but recent research suggests
Si> -that it is found from the islands of the Indian Ocean, coastal India
Si> and

Si> Well see -- there you go, this is "recent" research. I must admit, I
Si> have not been keeping up with the latest trends in crocodile population
Si> studies.

You obviously haven't read even a basic book on the subject, yet you
voiced your uninformed opinions as fact.

Si> these few species you managed to come up with all live mostly in fresh
Si> water, even the famed Saltwater croc. So can we get off this subject
Si> now? You have made your point, and I feel I have made mine.

My point is certainly made, namely that you do not do even the most
basic research about a subject before pronouncing "facts" about it.
Nor do you seem to feel you need to have even the most basic knowledge
of a subject before doing so. That is going to make your posts, shall
we say, "somewhat unproductive".

Si> If you want
Si> to argue the fine points of the habitat of one species of reptile, I
Si> will do it, but it is begining to boor me, and I would much rather talk

I'm going to have to reevaluate my dismissal of Freudian theory.

Si> about the primary points of the AAT theory.
Si> Troy Kelley

Okay: how did these putative aquatic hominids deal with the numerous and
dangerous predators, especially crocodiles and sharks, which lived in
great numbers in the same habitats, both freash and salt water, as these

And this time bring some facts to the table.

Jim Moore (

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