Re: Life Duty Death
Julie Locascio (julie.cpc@mhs.unc.edu)
Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:07:02
>Where does it say in the US Constitution that we are to take in the over flow
>population from Mexico or any other unrestricted poor breeding country and provide
>welfare for them...
Where does it say in the Constitution that we were to annihilate the Indians
to get them out of our way, that we were to use slaves imported from Africa to
build up our country, that we were to use cheaply paid Chinese immigrants to
build the railroads....It is called HISTORY. History does not NEED a mandate
to happen. The Constitution did not declare that women should get the vote,
but we have it now.
We are a country of immigrants--the VAST majority of whom came here for
economic opportunity or as slaves, not as political refugees. Get a clue.
>Question was Ms Garcia on Welfare.. If so why does she have the right to continue to
>breed children and expect the rest of the world to support them.. I would bet this was
>a non supporting household one that lives on the public dole...
The point of welfare in these situations is to help care for the children.
Our society has tried to maintain a philosophy that children are "innocent'
and should not be punished for the transgressions of their parents, that all
children are born with equal citizenship rights regardless of whether they
were born in Beverly Hills or in some slum. I will say again, if you feel
people like that are making poor choices when they have more children, then
provide them with information, education, and job opportunities to broaden
their perspective.
And may I remind you that EVERYBODY in this country
benefits from public spending in some form or another. Do you have any idea
how many people are employed in military bases, post offices, and public
universities alone? Do you understand that middle-class homeowners are
purposefully given tax breaks to encourage home ownership and (presumably
related) middle class citizenship attitudes? Do you realize how many "private
sector" companies get rich off of public contracts? Does the Chrysler bailout
ring a bell?
If you don't like the way Congress distributes federal money, then run for
Congress or lobby Congress, but if you start PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING the poor,
don't be surprised if they fight back.
>Julie your issue about why the US owes Mexico or any other country anything is a
>crock...
>If the Poor would possibly take responsibility for raising the children they feel so free
>to bring into the world
The reason their fertility is so high is because Western doctors brought
medicine and vaccinations to them without the other accroutements of Western
civilization. EVERY demography book will EXPLAIN to you the demogaphic
transition, if you BOTHER to read about it. ALL pre-modern societies have
high birth rates AND high death rates. When birth rates decline and women
realize that instead of 3 of their 12 children surviving, that 10 of their 12
children are surviving, they will gradually realize they do not need to have
12 children--PROVIDED that they ALSO have educational and job opportunities.
If they do not, they will be forced to maintain a primarily agricultural
lifestyle, in which case a large number of children provides labor to help the
family earn money. Children simply are not as productive in cities--and that,
combined with higher levels of education, is why urban birth rates EVEN IN THE
THIRD WORLD are lower than rural ones. If you get so upset about high birth
rates, you should educate yourself about them and find out why they have been
in decline all over the world, and why they are declining faster in some
places than in others.
>Until then I invoke the Golden Rule I have to put out the Gold to support this
>breeding machine, I make the rule as to whether she can continue to breed and her
>feelings are irrelavent..
I have had to put out the Gold for a lot of things I do not support, as do all
citizens. Her feelings may be irrelevant to you, but her human rights are not
irrelevant to a lot of the rest of us who believe that, yes, a threat to
justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. So you better stay within
the law and watch your hindside if you don't.
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