Re: Amerind an offensive term (was: Early Amerind assimilation

HR57JazzandBlues.@worldnet.att.net
19 Aug 1996 13:37:36 GMT

Stephen Barnard <steve@megafauna.com> wrote:
>HR57JazzandBlues.@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>
>> mycol1@unm.edu (Bryant) wrote:
>> >In article <4v7iu5$2pb2@argo.unm.edu>, Bryant <mycol1@unm.edu> wrote:
>> >In article <4v6h9f$1h6@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> > <HR57JazzandBlues.@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >>Stephen Barnard <steve@megafauna.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>A few people have questioned my motives in starting this thread. Well, tough.
>> >>
>> >>Did you take any time at all to wonder WHY people questioned your
>> >>motives? Judging from your post you could have cared less.
>> >
>> >Why *should* any of us care less? Questioning motives is an interesting
>> >exercise after it's been shown that somebody's arguments are illogical,
>> >but it's a poor argumentation tactic.
>>
>> I understood Steven to say that he made a post to the Indian NG
>> and got some replies and some of those replies questioned *his*
>> motives for what ever questions or statements he made. If he ment
>> that these questions concerning his motives for starting what
>> ever thread were coming from people in this thread then I
>> misunderstood him.
>>
>
>I said that people have questioned my motives for starting *this*
>thread. I thought that was clear enough, but apparently it wasn't.
>Sorry for the confusion.

No problem.

I've expressed, and I've heard from others,
>some reservation about the "Native" part, which implies that others born
>in America aren't native born. After some thought, I consider this to
>be nitpicking and overly sensitive, so it doesn't bother me.

Well Steve we agree again. Being native to a territory or continent
is quite different than being a native of the United States of
America by birth. The early settlers from Europe considered
themselves settlers in a foreign land as did the old world monarchs
who sought riches, trade and raw material to supplement the needs of
their subjects. This is what the term *Native* American is saying to
us. We are not native to this continent only to the United States.
Anyone who argues this point is only trying to make - you know - all
together now 1 and 2 Chicken Salad out of Chicken S__T!

>The
>capital N makes the meaning clear, at least in writing.
>
>The term "Indian" is a little different. That is downright confusing,
>unless the context is crystal clear. Personally, if I were a Native
>American I don't think I'd want to be called "Indian", since it derives
>from an error by the European explorers, but that's not for me to
>decide.
>
> Steve Barnard

Good for you Steve.

-Paloma

'Don't worry about the changes in the key
just play within the range of the idea"

Charlie Parker