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Re: Is white racism nec. all bad?Gary Strand (gary@ncar.ucar.edu)17 Apr 1995 17:51:55 GMT
jo> John Otteson
jo> Look at the context those communities were in. Why were they affected so
gs> Why? Were these communities *that* fragile? Look at Japanese-American com-
jo> Do you see any difference between 4 years and 400 years? I do.
I see. To take another example, the Nazis, in a few years, obliterated, lit-
Besides, the history of blacks in the US is not one of 400 years of unre-
jo> You have not answered the question as to why the communities were so fra-
You made that claim, not me. It's up to you to prove their fragility.
jo> Is it possible that the effects of 400 years of systematic racism might
I've made no such claim. Jews don't blame all their problems on ~3000 years
jo> It is possible that there are negative side-effects of welfare.
"Possible"? Actual.
jo> However, to blame all problems on Welfare is overly-simplistic.
Again, I never said that. It's *part* of the problem, just as white racism
gs> I don't believe blacks are entirely blameless victims here.
jo> What blame do you want to put on blacks?
Well, howzabout lack of fathers? Black-on-black fratricide? It's *easy* to
jo> Now do you want to divert the discussion to NatAm?
No, just illustrating that government aid isn't a panacea and can introduce
gs> [E]ducation is the key to progress in this post-industrial age. Too bad
jo> Why does that unhealthy attitude exist? How did it develop?
I don't know, ask those who believe it. Then again, they'll probably give --
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