Weclome Laurie! (was: New rules and guidelines)

Mr. E (jackechs@EROLS.COM)
Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:09:40 -0500

Laurie ... if I may call you Laurie. I really wouldn't want to assume like
someone else has (who claims not to appreciate such things). You should
also be aware that what Ms. Rohrlich refers to as "really good discussions"
is referring to a poster as retarded. And while I now regret deleting the
message, I'd be willing to bet my paycheck that within Ms. Rohrlich's post
was a statement that referred to watchdog as a sexist term. No one pulled
it out of the air. I think my quote sez the most on the Rubster ... and by
the way ... welcome to the list! Have a good time, look, learn, and share
with us. A feminist-baiter ... that's a live one. Fortunately, my mother
taught me better ... we are all equal, there are physical inequalities that
we have no power over ... they do not make us unequal as people though, just
unique ... there's nothing worse than a hypocrit. I have never stated nor
thought of anyone being inferior to myself because of race, sex, religion,
nor ability. My momma's a truck driver who hauls equipment back and forth
to the oil fields in Texas. My grandmother runs a trailer park and has for
the past 25 years (she worked for someone before that). My
great-grandmother ran a rather large farm in Mississippii for longer than I
know. I have no basis in my experience to be sexist. No one has objected
to or argued against Ms. Rohrlich's comments based on her being female, nor
has anyone proclaimed men to be superior. The majority of objections (if
not all) to Ms. Rohrlich's posts are her blantant uses of ad Hominem and
other logical falicies. If anyone is a baiter it's Ms. Rohrlich who is a
hate-baiter. Since it is not obvious to some, that is specifically Ms.
Rohrich and not an entire gender, species, race, or other group ... just the
individual who goes by the name of Ruby Rohrlich. Yes, I hate to admit it
but with all of the hate speech spewing from Ms. Rohrlich I have fallen ...
I am now a Rubyist. Please feel free to call me Jack, Mr. E (Echs ... oh
that's what it's for), or Anthony.

At 02:15 PM 02/08/96 -0500, Ruby Rohrlich wrote:
>Welcome to the list, Laurie. I want to clarify that some man used the
>term "watchdog" in a message and applied it to me, and I objected to this
>application. Someone, not I, described it as a sexist term, and
>feminist-baiters have made a field day of it. Yes, we have
>feminist-baiters on this list, and the more politics turn rightward, the
>more they consider they have permission to come out of the woodwork.
>Sometimes we have really good discussions, like one that has been going
>on for a long while about the status of Iroquois women, which I started
>by citing an article in a feminist magazine about the impact of the
>status of Iroquois women on the early radical feminists. Another message
>from me has to do with the situation of adjunct college teachers, most of
>whom are women, which deserves the kind of time and energy that the
>feminist-baiters are now wasting on "dog." But I was under the
>impression that most of the male members of this list are not
>feminist-baiters. Again, welcome. Ruby Rohrlich
respectfully submitted,

Anthony Dauer

"As witnesses not of our intentions but of our conduct, we can be
true or false, and the hypocrite's crime is that she [he] bears
false witness against herself [himself]. What makes it so
plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that
integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices
except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true,
confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the
hypocrite is really rotten to the core." Hannah Arendt
(1906-1975) On Revolution [1963], introduction.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." Walt Kelly (1913-1973), Pogo

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