Re: Morocco, etc.--Liminality

karl h schwerin (schwerin@UNM.EDU)
Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:28:15 -0700

On Tue, 19 Dec 1995, Jessie Strader wrote:

> Seth,
>
> Hi! I'm a grad in anthro at Columbia -- pleased ta meetcha'.
>
> Liminality, as Victor Turner used it, describes a "threshold state" --
> an ambiguous and undefined state typically experienced during a rite of
> passage. Marginality, on the other hand, is used to describe individuals
> and subgroups living on the fringes of a dominate society. I think
> marginal is probably a better descriptor for prostitutes and touts than
> liminal, but I'm willing to listen to your argument.
>
> For Morocco, you might check out Rabinow (name of text escapes me at the
> moment).
>
> I'd like to know more about the applied program over at TC. Any courses
> you might recommend?
>
> Jessie Strader
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>
> P.S. Taking a break until Jan 3, so if you write back and I don't
> respond immediately, don't despair.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 19 Dec 1995, Seth D Messinger wrote:
>
> > Hello -- My name is Seth Messinger and I am a grad student at Columbia
> > University's Teachers College. I am interested in liminality and whether
> > it applies to touts and prostitutes etc. My particular interest is in
> > Morocco. Does anyone have any ideas about ethnographies or articles
> > pertaining to prostitutes (male and/or female), prostitution, and touts?
> >
> > I have plenty of sources on the same for Thailand. -- Seth
> >

On prostitution, here are a couple of sources from Latin America:

There's a paper on social interaction in cantinas in Guadalajara,
published in the Kroeber Anthropological Society Papers, 37:58- (sorry I
don't have the exact title or author). published by the student society
at Berkeley

van den Berghe, Pierre L. & George P. Primov. 1977. Inequality in the
Peruvian Andes. Class and ethnicity in Cuzco. Columbia, MO: Univ. of
Missouri Press (This research was funded by a federal grant. When it
became known that some of it was conducted in brothels of Cuzco,
[very important to understanding class relations, and business dealings -
brothels to some Latin American businessmen are something like golf
courses to N.American businessmen] a veritable uproar resulted. To the
great embarrasment of van den Berghe and Primov, Sen. Proxmire (WI)
bestowed the Golden Fleece Award on them.)

Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology
Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131
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