Re: Homosexuality: male & female

Yousuf Khan (ykhan@achilles.net)
Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:51:35 GMT

On 20 Sep 1996 11:12:36 -0600, mycol1@unm.edu (Bryant) wrote:

>In article <51t59i$k93@hermes.achilles.net>,
>Yousuf Khan <ykhan@achilles.net> wrote:
>>
>>Maybe it is discrete, but what are the physical correlates that describe
>>bisexuals? They always seem to drop off into a miscellaneous category in
>>study after study.

>Good question. Unfortunately, our own study on developmental instability
>and personality/sexual behavior had only 8 homo- and bi-sexuals, so we
>have far too few individuals to draw statistically significant
>conclusions.

I'd say, how were you even able draw any conclusions at all about
homosexuals in your previous message with such a small sample? Or were
those conclusions taken from some other studies?

>Let's say, as we can reasonably expect, that bisexuals are intermediate
>between homosexuals and heteros--that is, they have intermediate levels
>of fingerprint and bone asymmetry, etc.

What's this about bone asymmetry and fingerprints? Last message you were
mentioning something about birth order in males, and hip-to-waste ratios in
females.

What possible correlations can fingerprints and bone shapes have with
homosexuality? I'm starting to get visions of measuring bumps on people's
heads.

>Let's say, as we can reasonably expect, that bisexuals are intermediate
>between homosexuals and heteros--that is, they have intermediate levels
>of fingerprint and bone asymmetry, etc. Would that suggest that
>sexuality is a continuum? For the human population, yes, it would. But
>for each individual, depending upon where in the continuum they fall out
>developmentally, it would not necessarily mean that at all. It would
>mean that those on the poles--gays and straights--are "developmentally
>determined" to have the orientation they do. (Or, at least, homosexuals
>would be born with some kind of increased likelihood of responding to
>environmental cues with homosexual preferences.)

Well, let's first determine if there are actually any external physical
correlations between sexuality.

>>If the orientations are discrete how many discrete points are we talking
>>about? Certainly not two, and three doesn't seem to fit too well either.
>>Maybe 20? Any guesses?

>Three, I think, works fine for adult sexualities. I've been avoiding the
>whole issue of folks who like barnyard animals and children.

Wouldn't work, even excluding barnyard animal lovers. You'll quickly find
that bisexuals come in so many varieties that they themselves can't even
recognize each other. Every individual bisexual seems to have such a
different level of preference for each gender that only certain stimuli
will attract them about each type of sexual activity.

Then you'll find that homosexual males come in two major varieties, jocks
and feminines (with some people in between of course); and homosexual
females come in their own two varieties, butches and femmes. Now, jocks
usually don't like to mix with feminines, because the feminines act too
much like women, which turns the jocks off ("if we wanted women, we'd be
straight!" is the phrase that jocks stick by). In the lesbian world, it
seems that the majority of lesbians are of the butch variety, according to
their own informal surveys of bars.

Then in the heterosexual world, we all know about the various fetishes that
distinguish heterosexual from heterosexual, ranging from frotteurism, to
sadism.

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf J. Khan
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