Re: Life Duty Death

Warrl kyree Tale'sedrin (
Fri, 15 Sep 1995 05:13:36 GMT (Beese Erik William) wrote:

>>>The bottom line is that our rivers are dying, our oceans are as well.
>>No they are not. Lying is not going to help you.

>Yes... They are... Acid rain has KILLED over half of the lakes in
>northern Canada, making the water unsafe for human consumption


At this point there is not a single documented instance of rain acidic
enough to even irritate skin.

What we do know is that a lot of the lakes damaged by "acid rain" are
surrounded by forests where the decaying leaves etc. produce rather
acidic effluents.

Another thing we know is that the effect you are proclaiming, would be
observed most strongly in a swathe originating at the source(s) of
pollution and widening, but becoming less intense, as it moves away
from them (in the direction of the prevailing winds); yet no such
pattern is observed in the lakes damaged by "acid rain".

>and need I
>remind you that Canada has approx. 33% of the worlds fresh water?

Yes, I seriously think you need to remind us of that. I would have
thought that Russia, Brazil, and the Antarctic might be ahead of
Canada. Since Siberia -- which is part of Russia -- has substantially
the same climate but is bigger than Canada, this would be a reasonable
thing to think.

>>>Fish are not nearly as plentiful as we opnce thought, the great food
>>>baskets are emptying,

Where is *that* occurring?

>>>deforestation is taking away our oxygen recycling

What planet is *that* occurring on? Forests in general really aren't
all that good at oxygen production. Grasslands -- e.g. wheat crops --
are better.

>>> new diseases are rampantr and older ones are reappearing.

>>Bullshit. There is a small problem with some fish problem. A
>>standard tragedy of the commons situation. Sell the fish and
>>the problem will be solved. We have more than enough food, an

>The point is there are no fish to sell...

That's odd, I have no trouble buying fish meat.

> Why do you think there is a
>fishing moratorium off the grand banks in Nfld, previously one of the
>most plentiful sources of fish in the world?

Because nobody owns the fish until they are dead.

>>embarrassment of riches in fact. America is reforesting. The
>>rest of the world has little problem. We are not running out
>>of oxygen and the seas are our main source anyway. Few new
>>diseases actually kill anyone. Older ones are still not a

>Oh and cancer isn't an old disease... What about HIV?

HIV is *one* disease. "One" definitely qualifies as "few".

Cancer is a disease of highly advanced societies -- because in less
advanced societies, hardly anyone lives long enough to contract it.