Re: Life Duty Death

Joseph Askew (
Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:27:47 GMT

In article <42fdgt$> swan <> writes:

>When all is said and done you CANNOT get past the fact that we are
>OUTPACING our ability to feed ourselves!

Actually the facts say the exact opposite. We are feeding
ourselves better faster than population is growing. In all
parts of the world. Even Africa although they did take some
serious blows over the last few years due to drought.

>I have had no children, nor do I
>intend to. My Sig Other has had her tubes tied after having one son.

You want a medal? I plan to have as many as we agree to.
What makes your choice morally better or are you always
this smug?

>do not own a car, My S.O. is vegan and we recycle vigorously. I own land
>in Nevada which I have left completely untouched.

See above.

>In fact I have RESISTED
>selling it or developing it because it would destroy the ecosystem it
>contains. It has never seen a plowblade, a tiretrack or a surveyer's
>stake. Nor will it!

Whoopie. Nice to see someone doing something with his
own money instead of mine. Not that this is really of
any interest whatsoever.

>Yes, we enjoy the blessings of science and medicine, but we are both
>aware that it cannot last much longer. We WILL overrun ourselves.

You can go on saying this but you won't make it come true.
We will not overrun ourselves. At least there is no reason
to think we will. Get a grip.

>predict that humanity will start to die horribly as a species within the
>next three generations!

Fine. I predict it won't. But neither of us will live
for 75 years to see. Well I might but I'm planning on
a peaceful death before then. If you don't do something
about your blood pressure you won't make it half way.

>I read an article in the paper about Mexico
>sterilizing women. Bravo! WE should do likewise!


>We will not, and that is
>the pity. It is one thing to allow personal freedoms when you are on dry
>land, and quite another when you are sitting in a crowded lifeboat and
>some passengers want to gouge a hole in the bottom of the boat because
>they feel they have a right to!

I do love the Green mainstream. Just when we have ended
Communism along comes someone else to herd millions of
us into slave camps to die. I think that people just can't
stand to see their fellow human beings happy and so have
to invent hate filled spiteful ideologies like this.

>My mother is healthy and vigorous. She has mandated in her will and in a
>Living Will that no heroic measures be implemented to keep her alive
>after a stroke or heart attack. She will die in HER TIME and not
>belatedly, hooked up to tubes and wires. My S.O, her son and I all have
>identical instructions. We will refuse the machines and needles!

The sound of the smug self satisfied. How sweet. Who
gives a damn about your mother or your steprunt?

>Too many
>humans are afraid of death. I am a proponent of rational suicide,

Please feel free.

>assisted suicide, abortion on request, birth control, family planning,
>natural death and euthanasia. If there were mandatory sterilization after
>two children, we would begin to make a dent in the problem.

No we wouldn't. We would make a worse problem ruining the
lives of millions of people who are not doing any harm to
anyone. What right have you got to break into people's lives
and destroy their dreams you hateful little shit?

>The bottom line is that our rivers are dying, our oceans are as well.

No they are not. Lying is not going to help you.

>Fish are not nearly as plentiful as we opnce thought, the great food
>baskets are emptying, deforestation is taking away our oxygen recycling
>mechanism, new diseases are rampantr and older ones are reappearing.

Bullshit. There is a small problem with some fish problem. A
standard tragedy of the commons situation. Sell the fish and
the problem will be solved. We have more than enough food, an
embarrassment of riches in fact. America is reforesting. The
rest of the world has little problem. We are not running out
of oxygen and the seas are our main source anyway. Few new
diseases actually kill anyone. Older ones are still not a

>Aquifiers are shrinking, global weather changes are happening as a
>result of changes in the land and WE ARE DYING!

No they are not. Either shrinking or happening. We are
not even dying. On the contrary we are richer, happier,
longer lived, better educated, with more leisure time
than at any time in the past. Deal with it.