Re: Further Evolution beyond the Human? (Sardonic Diatribe)

Stephen Barnard (
Wed, 09 Oct 1996 20:34:40 -0800

Theodore A. Holden wrote:
> (Paul Myers) wrote:
> >> One is that Newton discovered a real fact of the natural world and did a
> >fairly
> >> reasonable job of describing it for his day. Darwin did not. His
> >thesis (that
> >> the kinds of microevolutionary change which we observe in a schnauzer
> >> being bred into a terrier or a finch with one sort of beak changing into a
> >> finch with another kind of beak can explain the rise of all of our present
> >> lifeforms from the most simple to the most complex) was known by breeders
> >> to be fatally flawed when it was proposed and has been blown apart by several
> >> excellent books which have been published in the last 10 years or so.
> >No, Darwin and Newton are very comparable: evolution and natural selection ARE
> >real observable phenomena in the world today,
> Not macroevolution and you know it. In fact, nothing resembling macroevolution
> has ever been observed in recorded history and all writers on the topic admit
> that.

Check out The Beak of the Finch, which documents "macroevolution" in
real time among Galapagos finches. It won the Pulitzer Prize (in 1994,
I believe).

Steve Barnard