Re: What Are the Race Deniers Denying?

Bob Whitaker (
Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:59:51 -0500

Lorne Beaton wrote:
> In article <>,
> Bob Whitaker <> wrote:
> >
> > The white race is important to me because it is my race, not because
> >it is some kind of objective master race. If you do not know what I
> >mean by white race, I think you are using sophistry in a very serious
> >situation.
> That's your opinion.
> > Human identity, racial, national, etc., has always been at least as
> >important a matter as economics in history.
> Quite true. The problem comes in when people choose race as the basis of
> their own identity or that of others. As has been reiterated on many
> occasions, race is not an appropriate basis for classifying humans, at
> least scientifically. It *is* appropriate _insofar as people define
> themselves by race_, but scientifically, race is not an inherent facet of
> human identity.
> Mr. Whitaker, I'd like to ask you to do something that you may be
> reluctant to do: Put your race aside for a moment. By this, I mean stop
> thinking of your skin/hair/eye colour, racial/national descent, etc., as
> an index to your identity. (I realize that you probably consider these
> aspects central to your identity, but if you can, try to make the leap.)
> Think about things like the language you speak, the food you like to eat,
> etc.; what your hopes and dreams are, for you and for your children if you
> have any. Ask yourself:
> * How many non-whites speak the same language you do? (English is
> already almost a universal language.)
> * Could you live on the same food non-whites do?
> * Isn't that what everyone wants, for themselves and their children?
> > Many times in my life I have pointed out simple, fundamental
> >absurdities, and this logic that doing away with whites is good b ecause
> >1) the white race does not exist and 2) the white race deserves it, is
> >just one more.
> > Genocide, even against whites, is a deadly serious business.
> No one wants to do away with the white race in any way. What *must* be
> done away with, though, is white-skin privilege, or any kind of racial
> privilege. It is evil, and it cannot be justified. You should check out a
> journal called _Race Traitor_. I don't recall the URL, but they do have a
> web site. Try Alta Vista. Even if you think I'm full of shit, you should
> know about this.
> --
> Lorne Beaton:
> ----------------------------------------
> "I am not Montel Williams.

The only countries targetted for your precious immigration and
integration progranm are majority-white countries. Your program
includes every single majority-white country. That's genocide.
Every time you discuss "solving the race problem", it is always
doing away with the white race you are talkling about. As always
happens, past injustice is now being used to justify present genocide,
which will lead to a nasty reaction. And so on, ad infinitem.
If today's reaction against past white injustice were in fact
limited, as you keep claiming, merely to doing away with injustice, it
would be the first time in history such a reaction ever stayed within
such rational bounds.
The fact is, you are no such exception. Your words are antiracist,
your program is invariably anti-white.
That is why you cannot see the difference between my concern over
the disappearance of my own race and chattel slavery. This is typical
of people like you who adhere to the fashionable fanaticism of the