Re: What Are the Race Deniers Denying?

Philip Kasiecki (
13 Nov 1996 15:29:36 GMT

In article <>,
Bob Whitaker ( wrote:
: Philip Kasiecki wrote:
: > In article <>,
: > Bob Whitaker ( wrote:
: > : None of the clones who insist IQ is meaningless would let
: > : anybody try for one of their precious PhD's who did not have an IQ
: > : of at least 120.
: > : Get off it!

: > Bull shit, Bob.
: > It's really funny how you think a Ph.D is meaningless, but an IQ
: > test shows everything, yet they're similar in some regard. Personally,
: > I think a Ph.D. is a better thing than an IQ of, say, 140. Just like
: > four years of straight As in high school is a lot better than a 1500+
: > SAT score.

: Why?

I think work over a four-year period is a helluva lot more indicative
of what one can do than what happens in a 3-hour exam with about 200
questions. I don't know for certain, but it does seem that many schools
are putting less and less into SAT scores. I think my 3.7 GPA and
graduation as Salutatorian of my class in high school says a great deal
more about my high school success than my 1170 on my SAT does.
This is a good parallel to something I do every year with the NBA
Draft. Being the sports junkie that I am, I cover it in great detail,
and often get into heated debates about what pre-draft workouts mean, as
opposed to entire college careers. I think what the player does over
his years in college is more indicative than what he might do at a
workout over a span of a couple of days.

: > I've never heard of any case where an IQ test score meant the
: > difference between being admitted to a Ph.D. program; maybe you can
: > cite one for us, though.
: > Until then: get off it.

: I still think it's cute how little Kasiecki-Brown thinks he can give
: me orders.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser, Bob. You made the
comment, now back it up.

Phil Kasiecki

Philip T. Kasiecki
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Northeastern University Class of 1999

"None of us alone can save the nation or the
world. But each of us can make a positive
difference if we commit ourselves to do so."
-Cornel West, "Race Matters"