Re: If god exists, what created god?

Lisa Morton (
Sun, 7 May 1995 18:57:03 +1200

On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Gil Hardwick wrote:

> In article <3nlpp2$>, Rodney Wines (R_WINES@TRZCL1) writes:
> >In <> writes:
> >
> >> God is birthless and deathless, eternal, omnipresent.
> >
> >Interesting theory, but where're your facts to support it?
> But he doesn't have to have facts to support it. All he has to do is
> SAY it for the idea to be invoked.
> Note that the claim is not that God exists, only that God IS (L. Deus
> est) . . . whatever. Like astronomers claim that space (or whatever)
> IS . . . whatever.
> That any scientist subsequently pays attention to an idea of God thus
> invoked merely presents us with facts proving, scientifically, that
> religion has currency in science. Similarly any religious person of
> recognised scientific standing.
> Compelling situation in which we find ourselves, yes? Difficult indeed
> to see how both religion AND science are in common able to transcend
> the overlapping discursive space in which they each manifest in human
> thought.
> Might as well just stop savaging each other about it . . .
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> He who refuses to qualify data is doomed to rant.
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There are 2 modes of thought. Scientific and Religious. Science delivers
fact. Religion delivers opinion. All fact is opinion. Therefore science
and religion are one and the same.
What is God? God is a feeling we have which places in perspective the
connection we feel to the body of the human race. God is thought, God is
nature, God IS. We are God. God is us. All modes of religious and
scientific thought that consider God, consider the one thing in the same way.