Re: If god exists, what created god?

Matthew Scott (
14 Jul 1995 14:26:10 GMT writes:

>In article <>,
><> writes:

>> You, Yourself!
>> On 3 Jul 1995, CSCI3312 wrote:
>> > In article <3t7rn7$>,
>(Michelle Malkin ) writes...
>> > >In <3t1r9d$> (Michelle
>> > >Malkin ) writes:
>> > >>
>> > >>In <3skr15$> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J
>> > >>Lydick) writes:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>In article <3skqfc$>,
>> > >>(Michelle Malkin ) writes:
>> > >>>=>Yeah, God always existed. There was never a point at which he
>> > >>didnt

this is assuming a timeline which extends infinitely into the past.
Such a timeline is questionable, but can't be ruled out.

>> > >>>=>exist. That's eternity... and if we can't understand that, we
>> > >>>=>can't prove that he exists. We must have faith.

that depends upon our definition for him. Most defs are not provable. Some
can be proven.

>> > >>>=Why?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Because if we don't, then we won't uncritically accept all the
>> > >>pronouncements
>> > >>>of the folks who claim to speak on behalf of god. It's one of the
>> > >>most
>> > >>>successful classes of scams in history.

I'll admit that despite my christian faith.

>> > >>I have faith that there is no mystical being ruling all eternity.

Why should anyone believe in anything mystical?

>> > >>place my faith in the future of humanity once it realizes what a waste
>> > >>organized religions are and everyone starts working together to
>> > >improve
>> > >>things.

.....And organised religions don't work together to improve things? I'll
admit, they haven't always, and ofttimes are so radical that they don't.
Quite often, however, they do. This just means that in cases that they don't,
reform is necessary.

I see. We should stop worrying about God and become like him..and in so doing, prove
that his existance is a natural product of the universe or of existance at large.
"God created man in his own image"
Hey, if you could manage to get us all to work together, We would just
about lose our need for God because we would be fantastically powerful all on our
own! Things would really be ...heavenly...! Keep at it! You're following christ
without even believing in him. Living harmonically with others is the hard part
of being christian. I'll just say... Gods help has made it easier for me.

>But who was Jesus' teacher?

Supposedly, Jesus communed with God the father. In any case, his teachings
are the wisest I have yet experienced..and I have read plenty of psychology,
philosophy, ect. Unfortunately, his teachings couldn't go into great detail on
all significant subjects. So we are forced to learn also from others.