Re: Amerindian resistance mode (was: amerindian an offensive

Len Piotrowski (
Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:53:59 GMT

In article <4u8nps$> (Gerold Firl) writes:


>Sheesh. Nothing like a tawdry flamefest for wasting time ...

Firl's complaining about wasting time on a personal vendetta - how
extraordinary! As if anything can be as cheap and gaudy as his presentation of
self importance.


>Must be. either that or your sophisticated semantic structure and
>rarefied vocabulary momentarily dazzled me. I think I understand where
>you're coming from now - can you explain just what kind of bigot I am?
>What does the word "bigot" mean to you?

Bigot - one obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his own church, party,
belief, or opinion. Commentary?

>|> >[snip]

>"Sprout"? - that's cute.


>To me, there is a difference between using a worldwide newsgroup to
>disseminate simple insults, as you are doing, versus presenting ideas,
>albeit controversial ones, as I am doing.

I disagree, but hey, if you think your some intellectual giant beyond petty
human subjectivity don't let me blow your cover.

>Your insults can be heard on
>any playground; one hardly needs to log on to the net to treat oneself
>to that.

Then I suggest you head to your nearest ...

>Some of my thoughts appear to get people upset, but maybe you
>should just try thinking about them a little rather than immediately
>putting your foot in your mouth and banging your forehead on the

Don't flatter yourself, Firl. Your thoughts aren't that profound, certainly
not worth mouthing feet, or keyboarding foreheads over.

>|> >[snip]

>I see. You're interested in airing your vapid spleen, for all the world
>to see, complaining about some perceived slight, but when asked to
>explain just exactly what it is that gets you so upset you suddenly
>lose interest.

That smarts, Firl, especially the part about my spleen. But seriously, haven't
you found yet that feigning innocent bewilderment amidst castigating your
personal enemies a bit incongruous? Or do you really expect the "world" to
swallow your censorious speech as a new form of intellectual discourse?

>Could it be that your only interest is in the act of
>complaining? In proclaiming your heartfelt humanity, the depth and
>breadth of your compassion, the sense of exquisite moral outrage you
>feel at the plight of the downtrodden?

No! Why do you ask? What does it mean?

>You must be a truely wonderful
>person, lenny old boy, a marvelously sensitive man, to get your shorts
>in a twist about ... whatever it is that you're so upset about. Pat
>yourself on the back.

Okay, thanks old sprout!

>|> >[snip]

>By *my* vision for *your* future? You're confused again, lenny. I asked
>stephen russel about *his* vision.

Sorry, but I recognized another as the butt of your assault, which only served
to cover for your salient upon the plight of an entire culture and race. This
is *your* vision of the *future* that *I* referred to (aren't *'s cute!).

>We've heard plenty about the crimes
>of the past, and the oppression of the present, and all the wrongs that
>have gone before - important information, to be sure, but I'd like to
>get some balance by hearing about where we should be heading, as
>opposed to what went wrong before.

Thought you were heading to the playground, sprout...

>I want to understand the past, not
>just for the sake of intellectual curiosity, but also to craft a
>strategy for avoiding the repetition of previous mistakes.

Excuse me if I don't believe this plea for sincerity. It's been my experience
that you're more interested in propagating your self-speech than
participating in a serious dialog about any particular subject. This seems to
be a good spot for you to preach to me some more about where I've gone wrong
and how you can manage my thinking for me again.

>You're a
>broken record, lenny. You just keep scratching that same old itch. You
>sure you can't do better than that?

Seems to be getting to you just fine, Firl. Why change strategies now?


>"Not!" That is the summary of your argument, isn't it?

There's no argument, Firl. Just some medicine.

>Don't you understand that *if* reservation culture acts to prevent
>"defection" to mainstream american culture (and in my original post I
>expressed this as a conditional) by inculcating an exagerated
>adversarial relationship, that this will poison indian culture worse
>than television? Is this getting through to you at all?

Boggles, don't it! Too bad it's all bogus though. Hey Firl, why don't you
defect to the reservation and see what it's really like? Might calm you down,
get you to thinkin' - you might even come to likin' it!

>I'm not trying to hurt you, lenny. Calm down now, take it easy ... try
>to think, lenny. Try it - you might like it. It might even do you some

OKay, Firl won't hurt me, I'm calming down, I'm takin' it easy now, I'm
trying to think ... think ... think ... hmmm, I think I like think. I think it
am good. I for want more think ...

Uh ... what were we talking about again, Firl?

See ya',


"If you can't remember what mnemonic means, you've got a problem."
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