Re: Is white racism nec. all bad?

Paul Bernhardt (pb1487@u.cc.utah.edu)
18 Apr 1995 08:22:42 GMT

Arun Gupta (gupta@mrspock.mt.att.com) wrote:

: Regarding the quote from J.P. Rushton regarding the International
: Organization of Standardization (or International Standards
: Organization) recommendation on condom size :

: I would guess the standards would address how to measure length rather
: than what the length should be. Anyway, you can try on WWW,

: http://www.iso.ch/cat.html and muck around there to find (these are
: the only ISO standards relating to condoms that I found)

: * ISO 4074-1:1990 Rubber condoms -- Part 1: Requirements -- Condoms
: in consumer packages
: * ISO/DIS 4074-1 Rubber condoms -- Part 1: Requirements -- Condoms
: in consumer packages and individual packages (Revision of ISO
: 4074-1:1990)
: * ISO 4074-2:1994 Rubber condoms -- Part 2: Determination of length
: * ISO 4074-3:1994 Rubber condoms -- Part 3: Determination of width
: * ISO 4074-4:1980 Rubber condoms -- Part 4: Determination of colour
: fastness
: * ISO 4074-5:1984 Rubber condoms -- Part 5: Testing for holes
: * ISO/DIS 4074-5 Rubber condoms -- Part 5: Testing for holes --
: Water leak test (Revision of ISO 4074-5:1984)
: * ISO 4074-6:1984 Rubber condoms -- Part 6: Determination of
: bursting volume and pressure
: * ISO/DIS 4074-6 Rubber condoms -- Part 6: Determination of bursting
: volume and pressure (Revision of ISO 4074-6:1984)
: * ISO 4074-7:1986 Rubber condoms -- Part 7: Determination of
: resistance to deterioration during storage
: * ISO/DIS 4074-7 Rubber condoms -- Part 7: Oven conditioning
: (Revision of ISO 4074-7:1986)
: * ISO 4074-9:1980 Rubber condoms -- Part 9: Determination of tensile

: etc. etc.

: These documents are available from

: ANSI,
: 11 W 42 Street,
: NYC, NY 10036

: phone : 212 642 4900

: Items 4074-2 and 4074-3 are $24 each and $5 handling. My curiosity
: dried up at that point, but if someone can afford this curiosity, and
: gets the documents, please, Someone, let me know if my guess is correct and
: the document deals with how to measure rather than what the measure should
: be. Certainly the other titles suggest that the documents deal with methods
: of testing.

This month's Consumer Reports (May 1995) has an article on Condoms. They
tested many brands and included size data for all these brands. Length
varied from 186-206 mm (with outliers at 180, 184, & 214 mm). Width
varied from 50-54 nn (with an outlier at 56 mm). The largest was
Trojan-Enz "Large" at 214x56 mm (and excellent air burst rating!) They
also discussed skin and the new Polyurethane condoms. Skins were
typically 68-78 mm while the polyurethane were 60 mm. What does it all
mean? Maybe that, in America, the variety of condom sizes is quite wide
and certainly overshadows any possible racial differences.

Anyway Gupta's body size argument is so solid that it doesn't need any
support from me.