Re: chimps on the savanna? Nooooo.....

David Froehlich (
Sun, 29 Oct 1995 11:02:31 -0600

On 28 Oct 1995, H. M. Hubey wrote:

> >Why can't you understand that savannah indicates an environment
> >intermediate between EF and G. If you continue to use savannah as an
> >equivalent statement for grassland
> Savannah=grassland=steppe.

Where is it written that whatever you believe is fact? You may equate
S=G=Steppe but I don't. In fact, Grassland does not equal steppe.
Steppe is a habitat that only occurs in mid to northern latitudes (colder
climates, more c3 grasses.

> If you don't like it write to the dictionary publishers.

Wher is it written that dictionaries have to be true? If you get all
your information from dictionaries and encyclopedias it is no wonder that
you are ignorant (I read the previous posting about water and crocodiles
and I still cannot understand you problem, water has to go somewhere, and
if crocodiles can live in that water then they can travel up the new

> And if that weren't true there'd be no need for "mosaic savannah"
> would there?

Because idiots confuse the word savannah with grassland so the
combination was produced to limit misunderstandings (it obviously has not

> Is this the best you can do?

Why bother since you cannot understand in the first place.

> PS. You can change the meaning of savannah, if you like.

I am not. I use the term in the sense it was originally intended when
referring to Mio-Pliocene environments in eastern Africa.

> PPS. It still doesn't change the fact that chimps are forest
> animals.

Are you deliberately ignoring all the evidence produced or are you truly

> PPPS. Do you remember my earlier posts on 'verbiage'?

Who is the one that persists in misunderstanding?

> What's really funny is seeing you and Duncan argue against
> the arboreality of chimps, after arguing about the arboreality
> of Lucy because of its foot :-)...

What has this got to do with arboriality. You are the one who wants to
equate trees to forest and then say that chimps live in and around trees
so they are obviously forest dwellers. I have just pointed out that this
is an incredibly simplistic view and that it is not followed by anybody

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