Re: (US) Request for ideas on sensitive issue (was

John Pastore (venture@CANCUN.RCE.COM.MX)
Wed, 29 May 1996 02:50:30 +0000

On 29 May 96 at 13:01, Hugh W. Jarvis wrote:

> Anyone have any ideas here? Please post to the original sender, and
> please consider the serious nature of this subject.
> Hugh

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Subject: NAGPRA-Trafficking-Ritual Objects
> Date: Tuesday, May 28, 1996 7:50PM
> [ AzTeC / SWA SASIG ]:
> From: William J. Whatley < >

> The US Attorney would like for the Pueblo to disclose the secret
> "society" markings carried on each of the artifacts to help prove
> how they know the objects are authentic (this disclosure would
> violate the Pueblos Unwritten Traditional Tribal Laws). She also
> needs to know the date of the alleged "taking" ...or the date the
> objects were last seen/utilized by the Pueblos Traditional Leaders.

[Much Cut]

> Given the above situation, does anyone have any suggestions as to
> how the Pueblo of Jemez can provide stronger proof without
> disclosing secret society information, or prior case references that
> I can present to the US Attorneys Office to help them in
> prosecuting this case?


> Respectfully yours,
> William J. Whatley, Tribal Archaeologist
> Pueblo of Jemez
> PS: My email address of "" will change on June
> 1st to a new address that is unknown at this time.

1) Can a neighboring tribe with a similar tradition be called in to
collaborate the secret markings?


2) Has the marketer of "replicas" been approached to make the
gesture of donating such questionable objects to the Jemez --a
gesture, that I would think would be incumbant on anyone, who having
admitted being at least in the business of making "replicas", creates
such confusing predictaments?

Ka Xiik Keech Ya Utzil,

John Pastore
Writer/Guide in 'El Mayab'
("The Mayan Homeland")

"A teepee is a pyramid, isn't it?"