Re: egalitarianism and feminism (was Haudenosaunee egalitarianism)

thomas w kavanagh (tkavanag@INDIANA.EDU)
Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:50:55 -0500

Mark Rogers gives a very elegant statement of the problematic:

On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Mark Rogers wrote:


we need to ask further questions:

(1) is this an accurate characterization of their vision?;
(2) if it is, was it shaped by their interactions with the Haudenosaunee?;
(3) if it was, to what degree were they directly inspired by aspects of
Haudenosaunee social reality, and to what degree were they engaged in an
active process of utopian imagination?

Thus, the meaning of Haudenosaunee "egalitarianism" is important to
clarify if we want to understand the process whereby a certain vision of
egalitarianism (anglo feminist) was "influenced by" another

Several respondents have suggested that one cannot draw a transparent
connection between the two without defining egalitarianism and filling in
the content of the two (supposedly egalitarian) ideologies.

In addition, we would need more information of the kind Rohrlich supplies
about the actual interactions between feminist leaders and Haudenosaunee,
as well as information about the social organization of the early
feminist movement, in order to say anything interesting about the


If we can keep the discussion to these points, we may be on to something.

BTW, the blurb on Dr. Wagner, the author of the On The Issues article,
says she is working on a book length treatment of the subject.